Rogered711
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August 14, 2022 10:23PM
As the title asks I've seen so much bullying of lord vader and I just want to know if he actually has any viability whatsoever inside of GAC. Like what does he counter what counters him and stuff like that would be useful.
Pieeater420
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August 14, 2022 10:33PM
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He can solo full fo/slkr teams. Yeh bh’s work ok on him if you go weak with your LV team but ive also seen him get unlimited holds on defense an get the player many wins by holding down a area and stopping a clear. He’s actually one of the hardest gl’s to cleanup. If they don’t have a gl to use to cleanup a solo LV they can waste their entire roster trying take him out. He gets way more hate than he should.
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Fergjeezy357
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August 14, 2022 11:36PM
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He's great in Conquest with all the DoT data disks. I use him to run through territories. Outside of that, he's not bad. He just takes too long to ramp up his ulti.
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NicWester
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August 14, 2022 11:39PM
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Is he the best Galactic Legend? No. But are even "weak" Galactic Legends still very good teams? Very, very much so. Put him on defense, force them to use an extremely strong team to take it out.
It's not like there's a hard cap on what you can have in your collection. Having Lord Vader doesn't preclude you from having any other characters. It just means you're working in series rather than in parallel.
Ceterum censeo Patientia esse meliat.
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Rogered711
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August 15, 2022 1:01AM
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Pieeater420 wrote: »
He can solo full fo/slkr teams. Yeh bh’s work ok on him if you go weak with your LV team but ive also seen him get unlimited holds on defense an get the player many wins by holding down a area and stopping a clear. He’s actually one of the hardest gl’s to cleanup. If they don’t have a gl to use to cleanup a solo LV they can waste their entire roster trying take him out. He gets way more hate than he should.
what would his ideal lineup be then so I don't cheap out on him?
LordDirt
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August 15, 2022 1:15AM edited August 2022
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LV, Maul, Stormtrooper, Royal Guard, and the fifth can be Thrawn, Gideon, Darth Vader, Piett, 9th Sister, Shoretrooper, or any other Empire or DS tank.
Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
Wolfcast1e
526 posts Member
August 15, 2022 2:05AM
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Also good in TB, easy 4/4 with maul, rg, and whatever empire you have left.
Antario
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August 15, 2022 2:54AM
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Well, OT asked about viability in GAC. I sometimes use LV to solo GAS in 3v3 GAC. This is particularly valuable given there aren't many efficient and reliable counters to GAS in 3v3.
Example of what LV can beat in 3v3 （last season） https://swgoh.gg/gac/who-to-attack/LORDVADER/?season=29
That's me! https://swgoh.gg/p/337141285/
Jarvind
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August 15, 2022 3:28AM
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He's effing great. All the "LV sucks" nonsense is just gibberish repeated by people who can't resist slurping up Ahnald's clickbait diarrhea.
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Tiig
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August 15, 2022 4:33AM
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Rogered711 wrote: »
As the title asks I've seen so much bullying of lord vader and I just want to know if he actually has any viability whatsoever inside of GAC. Like what does he counter what counters him and stuff like that would be useful.
Modded correctly, and with the right DC, and a couple of other GLs on D, he can just about guarantee that you won’t clear no matter what your roster. Makes for a very boring gac and part of why I stopped doing gac
Krjstoff
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August 15, 2022 7:58AM
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Fergjeezy357 wrote: »
He's great in Conquest with all the DoT data disks. I use him to run through territories. Outside of that, he's not bad. He just takes too long to ramp up his ulti.
This. With a couple of Amplify Agony and a Volatile accelerator disc, he can solo almost anything in conquest. I use him as clean up "crew" on the nodes I fail to 3 star the first time around.
Also, with datacrons he is a pretty good defensive toon in GAC.
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Nothingface
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August 15, 2022 11:36AM
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Jarvind wrote: »
He's effing great. All the "LV sucks" nonsense is just gibberish repeated by people who can't resist slurping up Ahnald's clickbait diarrhea.
Absolutely. He's amazing.
Kenobi on the other hand is awful.
The difference is the lifter unit. Cat is what makes the Kenobi team good. She's also great on other teams but Kenobi is basically roster weight without her. Literally the worst GL
And with how gated cat is, it makes the team even worse.
ShaggyB
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August 15, 2022 1:55PM edited August 2022
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Hes good at the hurdles event in track and field. Hes got mad ups.
Though he doesnt like the distance jump due to the sand... he has a pretty good reach when it comes to jumping, so sometimes the coach subs him in.
But most importantly:
He always entertains the crowd... not just the men, but the women and the children too.Post edited by ShaggyB on
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Salatious_Scrum
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August 15, 2022 4:16PM
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He really doesn’t like sand; it’s rough, coarse, irritating, and it gets everywhere.
Lord Vader is a good GL, regardless of what Ahnald and his fanboybase say.
ShaggyB
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August 15, 2022 4:59PM
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Salatious_Scrum wrote: »
He really doesn’t like sand; it’s rough, coarse, irritating, and it gets everywhere.
Who can blame him?
Hes also good at barrel roles... i mean thats a good trick right?
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Ultra
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August 15, 2022 6:05PM
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Salatious_Scrum wrote: »
He really doesn’t like sand; it’s rough, coarse, irritating, and it gets everywhere.
Lord Vader is a good GL, regardless of what Ahnald and his fanboybase say.
I believe his only issue with LV is lack of DPS against other GLs and Fennec counter
Both points i agree with, the GL does not do well on defense with his lifter because a very friendly counter Fennec exists that no LV comp can prevent it
You can save him for offense but his damage takes 4+ minutes to ramp up that you risk losing or timing out against other GLs without his lifter (sometimes even with his lifter depending on which GL you are going against)
He’s a great GL for defense if opponent somehow flops using Fennec, and offensively he can take out any team other than GLs
So he’s bad in that regard and its valid complaints imo
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ShaggyB
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August 15, 2022 10:55PM edited August 2022
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Ultra wrote: »
Salatious_Scrum wrote: »
He really doesn’t like sand; it’s rough, coarse, irritating, and it gets everywhere.
Lord Vader is a good GL, regardless of what Ahnald and his fanboybase say.
I believe his only issue with LV is lack of DPS against other GLs and Fennec counter
Both points i agree with, the GL does not do well on defense with his lifter because a very friendly counter Fennec exists that no LV comp can prevent it
You can save him for offense but his damage takes 4+ minutes to ramp up that you risk losing or timing out against other GLs without his lifter (sometimes even with his lifter depending on which GL you are going against)
He’s a great GL for defense if opponent somehow flops using Fennec, and offensively he can take out any team other than GLs
So he’s bad in that regard and its valid complaints imo
Hes still flying half a ship though right?
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